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The Gotheborg Antique Chinese and Japanese Ceramics collector's help and information Forum
The Gotheborg Forum and related web pages was started in December 1998 to continue the tradition of scholarly generosity set by my own special mentor Prof. em Bo Gyllensvard, by creating a place where collectors and specialists alike, could combine our expertise in our various areas into one big knowledge resource. Here, a global collector's community can share our own experiences towards unbiased appreciation, understanding and authentication of Antique Asian Ceramic Art, while passing on this hard to acquire material knowledge on real antiques to students and beginner collector's at the same time.

The fundamental idea is to encourage learning and mutual help in an increasingly difficult field, while putting all commercial considerations aside.

With the help of many thousand contributing members our Forum has now grown into a large and much appreciated collector's resource. On this Forum, we have more than 35,000 pages and 350 thousand+ posts and images under some 80 different topics, from Neolithic Age to the 21th century, why the best way to start any quest for information is to first try our Search link (top right), before posting a question to the Board.

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Welcome to our Antique Asian Ceramics collector's Forum

Jan-Erik Nilsson


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Hall of Supreme Harmony
Gotheborg Forum Rules, Policies, Participation and Privacy
The purpose of this Asian Ceramic Art Collectors Community and Forum is to help each other, teach beginners and pass on the hard to gain practical knowledge on how to authenticate genuine Asian antique ceramics. This material knowledge is more complicated than the plain Asian Arts History, since it addresses the actual authenticity of specific items and not only if they are "in the style of". We do this by encouraging experienced collectors to clap together our various expert knowledge and thus forming a formidable knowledge resource while at the same time enjoying our own collections. Summary: 1. Ask when you need, 2. Help when you can, 3. No business.
0 1 12-03-21  04:56 pm  
FAQ - How to Post and Participate
FAQ on practical issues. See also the " Help/Instructions" link at the bottom of all pages.

208 19 05-03-21  10:25 am Jan-Erik Nilsson
The Sportsman's Bar [ All today's posts on the whole board ]
Off Topic Trade News and Friendly Chit-chat [90 days archive]
News and friendly chit-chat that doesn't fit anywhere else. Threads not added to for more than 90 days will be deleted automatically.
22663 1884 12-03-21  04:45 pm Elizabeth A
Pinned pages - Links to our most informative pages
On this Forum, we have more than 35,000 pages and 350 thousand+ posts and images under some 80 different topics, why some of our most informative pages might be difficult to find. When you find any really great and informative pages, please create a link here with an informative name to help others find it too.
26 16 09-29-21  04:39 pm Nomi Meivar
Local Meetings
Invitations to and reports from local chapter meetings
986 83 08-05-21  08:02 am Jan-Erik Nilsson
Exhibitions and Museum Collections
Visits at public exhibitions, for easy reference. Please feel free to add your pictures here
3351 283 08-16-21  08:26 pm Jan-Erik Nilsson
Member's Collection Gallery
The purpose of this topic is to showcase only known genuine and representative pieces in our members collection, to serve as a study and reference database. Welcome to create any topic you'd like to showcase. Give a brief description with measurement, period and any reference to public exhibitions or relevant literature. Two photos only of each piece. Front and back/base. Link to previous discussion authenticating the piece, if any. This topic will be edited and moderated to facilitate reading and focus.
106 16 11-21-21  02:59 am Walter Susor
Collection Stickers on Porcelain
Collection, Exhibition, Museum and Auction Labels found on porcelain.
402 157 11-08-21  12:48 pm Arne Andersson
Price Records and Exceptional Tales
Welcome to post any and all information on spectacular price records and antiques trade lore from today and days gone by.
1314 129 10-30-21  02:00 am Joe Hertel
Simons Quest
Put your fellow members on an educational trial. This topic are for objects whose authenticity (or lack thereof) are known, and where clues can be given gradually to stimulate discussion.


8003 310 09-26-21  07:47 am Giel Louws
Chinese Pottery and Porcelain

If you are uncertain about where to post a new question, use the Board Search link (top right) to find a topic with similar pieces.
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and hit "Post a New Question to the Discussion Board". Write as meaningful a title as you can to your question.

Early Pottery
Neolithic and later earthenware, "proto-porcelain" jars and figures, Zhou, Warring States and Han, Sui, Tang, Ming and Qing figures and architechtural pieces, Changsha wares.
11845 1022 10-14-21  10:02 am Birgit Steinbach
Green glazed wares
Yue yao, Zhejiang Celadon, Northern and the numerous Southern Song kilns, Thai, Korean and Japanese ceramics and any related Asian ceramics with mostly green/gray/brown monochrome glaze
15387 1374 12-02-21  12:11 pm Hans Slager
White wares
White round wares from Tang dynasty, Ding yao, Qingbai/Yingqing, white Jingdezhen porcelain from Ming, Qing and later, Fujian province, etc.
14038 1102 12-03-21  02:30 pm Charles Payne
Crackled wares
Song Guan or Ge or later imitations. Any porcelain with crackled glaze as an intentional decorative feature
2708 298 10-07-21  12:11 pm Tommy Eklöf
Brown and Black wares
Temmoku / Jian ware, Huangpu, Lushan, Cizhou and Jizhou.
9712 821 12-03-21  01:32 pm Birgit Steinbach
Jun
Jun family type of wares
3273 222 10-16-21  08:32 pm Dan Danielsen
Yixing / Buccaro / Zisha (Purple Clay)
Typically brown or red stoneware teapots from clay mined near the city of Yixing in Jiangsu Province, China
2836 330 11-17-21  07:45 am Giovanni Repetti
Yuan porcelain
Primarily Yuan porcelain with underglaze red or underglaze blue and white decoration. Monochromes can be posted elsewhere.
2500 150 10-23-21  08:03 pm Roberto Gardellin
Ming period porcelain, all decorations
Underglaze blue and white, copper red and white, polychromes, Wucai, Swatow (Zhangzhou) ware etc.
15928 1158 12-02-21  09:58 pm wil hugers
'Kraak' style decoration
If you are not sure if the decoration is Kraak, you can post under 'Ming', since that is usually what it is too.
1844 130 11-13-21  08:47 am Joakim Boman
Chinese Imperial Porcelain
Discussions related to Imperial porcelain as such, ordering, decoration, marks, use etc.
2926 150 10-15-21  10:15 pm David Stevens
Early to mid Qing Blue and White
Typically Transitional and Kangxi blue and white with common shapes and decoration, that are not Armorial nor Imperial
21942 1789 12-02-21  11:42 am michael john donoghu
Early to mid Qing porcelain - polychrome
Early to mid Qing dynasty polychrome wares, such as wucai, doucai, susancai that are not of armorial or special design type, nor Imperial.
13750 1037 12-03-21  03:45 pm Daniel Mullan
Chinese Western Market Export Porcelain
Special designs, Armorial porcelain, all pieces with shapes and decorations made to order or to fit foreign taste and customs.
Decorations typically blue and white, Willow Pattern, Famille Rose, Famille verte (Kangxi wucai), Chinese Imari, Rose Medallion, etc.
17938 1619 12-03-21  04:35 pm CY Chang
"Clobb'd" porcelain
Chinese export porcelain with secondary enamel decoration added in Europe
826 73 06-25-21  02:53 pm Karl Emil
Mid Qing to 21th century - Polychrome
19th and 20th century - Guangxu, Early Republic, Straits Chinese Porcelain, Fahua, fencai, the Eight Friends of Zhushan, Jiangxi Porcelain Co., Mao Zedong, etc.
26520 2441 12-02-21  09:58 pm Valery Krylov
Mid Qing to 21th century - Blue and White
From "Kangxi revival" to modern wares. All pieces where underglaze blue is involved, also underglaze blue and red and high fired cobalt glaze.
4779 599 12-02-21  06:32 am Jan-Erik Nilsson
Porcelain plaques 990 93 06-26-21  06:50 pm Kevin Donnelly
Dated porcelain
Porcelain dated to a specific year by their inscriptions.
4332 310 10-07-21  09:08 pm Yin Hall
Michaela Russel's Republic Period Patterns & Marks Project
Michaela's Republic Period Patterns & Marks Project
231 35 05-03-21  11:20 pm Valery Krylov
Tommy Eklof's Facial Features and Adornments Research Project
Welcome to comment and add new photos to the database
927 39 01-23-21  05:41 pm Jan-Erik Nilsson
Cultural Revolution Period Porcelain
1965-75 Chinese cultural revolution porcelain inside and outside of China proper, including Macao and Hong Kong decorated porcelain of the period.
412 48 06-19-21  04:23 pm Nomi Meivar
Bleu de Hue
Chinese porcelain for the Vietnamese market
224 40 10-03-18  08:31 am Hans Slager
Figures or sculpted porcelain, Blanc-de-Chine or polychrome
White or polychrome sculpted pottery or Porcelain - Chen Guozhi, Wang Bingrong, Li Yucheng and similar, white, Blanc-de-Chine (Dehua), Shiwan or other polychrome ceramic wares, decorative or altar figures
3091 372 11-12-21  11:12 pm michael john donoghu
Monochromes
Colored glazes such as Ox-blood, peach bloom, powder blue, tea dust, yellow, green, mirror black, Faux bronze, faux wood, etc.
8751 745 11-27-21  05:33 pm Cliff Nunn
Snuff Bottles
Special topic for Snuff Bottles regardless of material or decoration - porcelain, glass, lapiz lazuli, lacquer, bone etc.
2297 293 09-09-21  04:06 pm Kevin Hawco
Chinese Porcelain Marks
Before posting any questions here kindly first browse the gotheborg.com "Marks" section. Additions and corrections for that section could be added here.
4596 617 12-03-21  03:15 pm alexander ferraro
Chinese Porcelain Motifs
On particular stories and their illustrations that appear on porcelain, with documentation and pictures of variations that appear on porcelain from different periods. Topics on particular motifs, such as dragon depictions/variations.
2396 150 09-19-21  02:06 pm Tommy Eklöf
Modern Chinese Art Porcelain
Works currently produced by individual artist. Jiangxi's Ceramic Research Inst., etc
228 48 10-18-21  06:07 pm Terri Adkins
Chinese Kilns, Clays, Glazes and Decorations
Cross topic question that does not belong under any particular ware
1655 123 06-12-21  05:35 pm Rainer Geschke
Last resort - Help Needed - Chinese?
Chinese pottery and porcelain last resort posting topic. If posted here your question will need to be moved.
If you loose track of a post, use the Board Search to find it again. Remember to always write a meaningful title to your question so you can recognize it.

17232 1691 11-30-21  06:12 pm Jan-Erik Nilsson
Japanese Pottery and Porcelain

If you are uncertain about where to post a new question, use the Board Search link (top right) to find a topic with similar pieces.
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and hit "Post a New Question to the Discussion Board". Write as meaningful a title as you can to your question.

Japanese Section 'Off Topic'
Friendly thoughts and chit-chat that doesn't fit anywhere else
1037 130 11-30-21  11:27 am Paul Anthony Ardron
Last resort - Help Needed - Japanese?
Japanese pottery and porcelain last resort posting topic. If posted here your question will need to be moved.
If you loose track of a post, use the Board Search to find it again. Remember to always write a meaningful title to your question so you can recognize it.
2532 264 11-28-21  05:30 pm Peter T
Japanese Polychrome Arita 'Imari' Porcelain
Kinrande (Blue Underglaze, Polychrome enamels and Gold). Akae (red dominating) or Iroe decorated with gilt decoration and other colors mostly for export.
12640 1139 11-23-21  06:52 pm James Hamershock
Japanese Meiji-19-20th century polychrome enamels
All Meiji and later polychrome enamels, including all Meiji and later commercial kilns like Koransha, Fukagawa and Noritake. Also all wares labeled 'Made in Japan', 'Japan', 'Nippon' or with an 'M in wreath' etc. Also Dragonware and Moriage decoration. From the Meiji period (1868-1912) and later.
5407 607 11-11-21  10:58 pm Orvis Hollevoet
Geisha Girl Porcelain
Japanese Porcelain with overglaze printed decoration of Japanese ladies in kimonos with printed outlines as defined by Elyce Litts, but extended also to porcelain where the decoration is similar but entirely hand painted.
354 52 10-09-21  05:28 am Mike Brett
Arita Blue and White Porcelain
Sometsuke and Ko-Sometsuke. This is the dominating kiln area for Japanese porcelain of the 19th century and older, in particular to the West since so much of this was exported.
Post Japanese Blue and White here when in doubt.
5796 589 12-03-21  04:04 pm David Griffel
Other Japanese Blue and White
Underglaze Blue and white decorated porcelain of unknown but Japanese origin.
1037 117 08-14-21  02:17 pm John Wocher
Japanese Figures
Human and animal figures could all be posted here regardless of kiln type or area.
848 112 11-17-21  05:03 pm Giovanni Repetti
Japanese Monochromes
Awaji and similar wares with entirely or mostly monochrome glazes. Japanese Celadon
731 95 11-10-21  11:54 am Nomi Meivar
Japanese blue and white transfer printed decoration
Blue and white Japanese porcelain with stenciled, transfer printed or otherwise print supported decoration
804 90 06-27-21  09:04 am Jorgen Samuelsson
Carrie Lamberts Japanese Cobalt Blue Ceramics and other polychrome transfer printed decoration project
Cobalt Blue Ceramics and similar second half 20th century transfer printed decorations, including but not limited to Japan
453 125 10-21-21  10:24 pm Carrie Lambert
Japanese Porcelain Marks and Motifs
Before posting any questions here kindly first browse the gotheborg.com 'Japanese Marks' section.
3110 475 10-23-21  07:31 pm sally radlauer
Japanese Studio Pottery and Contemporary Porcelain 1508 221 11-19-21  11:13 am John Wocher
Sumida, Banko, Hagi, Mashiko, etc.
and other difficult to identify Japanese Pottery and Stoneware
2130 295 06-15-21  01:36 pm Theresa Johnson
Hirado 1301 119 07-23-21  09:06 pm Bjorn Jansen
Kakiemon
Kakiemon and Kakiemon style enamel decoration
1284 86 04-02-21  06:56 pm Bjorn Jansen
Kutani
For more information on Kutani, kindly also refer to Georges Bouvier's Kutani Collectors web-site.
8364 932 11-28-21  07:11 pm Elizabeth A
Nabeshima
Nabeshima and 'Nabeshima style'
696 65 05-22-21  04:44 am Howard Reed
Satsuma and Satsuma-Like
Original Satsuma earthenware but also 'Satsuma marked' items and 'Satsuma looking' pices
8488 927 11-28-21  10:08 pm Aaro Toomela
Seto
Formerly Owari and Nagoya, renamed to Aichi Prefecture 1872. Largest ceramic center i Japan

1326 131 05-17-21  08:49 am Kevin Hawco
General pottery and porcelain questions
Mystery Pieces 3710 393 12-01-21  08:52 pm Jan-Erik Nilsson
Known methods of faking
Method and technology in making pottery and porcelain fakes
1002 90 08-25-20  12:56 pm Geoffrey Middle
Discussions on Shapes
The shape of a piece is probably the most important clue to the identification of an item with regard to its authenticity and period. This category is for the discussion on the uniqueness (not just the shape of course) of a particular kind of ware that has been produced throughout a significant period of time in the history of Chinese ceramics like meiping; yuhuchun jar; ginger jar, Gu etc.
702 47 03-13-20  08:09 pm michael john donoghu
Base and foot rim archive
Add foot rims / bases of similar age to the same thread. Start new thread if you want to cover a new type that is not represented.
290 69 11-13-20  04:24 am Greg C. Brown, M.S.,
Asia outside China and Japan
Korea, Vietnam, Thai, Indonesia, etc.

2630 282 10-24-21  06:19 pm Geoffrey Middle
Western wares with Oriental design
Edmée Samson of Paris, Delft, Bristol, Bow, Derby, Staffordshire, Caughley, etc. to Bernard Leach
1405 170 10-27-21  12:13 am CY Chang
Wares from the Middle east/Asia minor 344 39 04-29-21  06:13 pm Kevin Donnelly
Shards and archaeology
For help to archaeologists and others on unspecified shard finds

508 51 04-21-21  08:59 am Giel Louws
Gold, Silver, Metal, Cloisonné, Lacquer, Ivory, Wood, Glass, Jade, Textiles and Paintings, etc.
Textiles, Rugs, Prints, Silk, Paper, Paintings and Calligraphy
Textile art as in clothes, Chinese and Tibetan rugs but also anything related to silk and paper as in calligraphy and paintings
7729 927 11-16-21  11:09 pm Mike Harty
Non-ceramic pieces such as Wood, Glass, Ivory, Bone, Soft and hard stones, etc.
Most any non-ceramic wares and sculptures that does not fit anywhere else, being they Chinese or Japanese
9623 1060 11-27-21  12:54 am I & M Heriot
Lacquer
Chinese and Japanese lacquer, Lac Burgauté, cinnabar or lacquer related items that seems to fit here.
1575 229 10-23-21  09:00 pm sally radlauer
Chinese Metal, Pewter, Tin, Bronze, Gold, Silver, Cloisonné and "Canton enamels" etc.
All Chinese or Tibetan gold, silver or metal pieces with or without enamels and those not identified
7386 874 12-02-21  07:33 am giuseppe leopizzi
Japanese Metal, Pewter, Tin, Bronze, Gold, Silver, Cloisonné and other enamels
Japanese metal wares inclusive of swords, armor and dress parts, coper, brass, iron, silver and gold, with and without enamels.
Also Totai Shippo Cloisonné enamels, in which a ceramic, earthenware or porcelain body is utilized

2623 318 09-22-21  12:26 am Jan-Erik Nilsson
General Help and Suggestions
Restoration and conservation
DISCLAIMER: Any handling at all of an antique item may permanently destroy it, as well as all values related to it such as its financial or historical value. Several of the chemicals and processes described here could be extremely harmful and should not be tried by non-professionals. Please be advised that any actual use of the information found here are solely on the individuals own risk and responsibility. By accessing the messages under this topic you are acknowledging that this disclaimer is read and understood.
1628 147 11-09-21  12:00 pm Bjorn Jansen
Books - trade, review and suggestions
Titles and recommendations of books and book sellers on Chinese Porcelain - add your favorites here.
A wise collector should always buy two books per any one item. / JE
2215 452 11-20-21  11:27 am Roberto Gardellin
Link suggestions
Valuable references on the Internet, to be included in the permanent LINKs file.
595 217 09-05-21  04:11 pm michael john donoghu
Words of Wisdom
Fun, important, clever and unsolicited Advice to the Beginner Collector and New Members. And some board related issues that might have ended here by mistake.
781 77 10-28-21  10:33 am John Wocher
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